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The One Thing Every Storyteller Misses About Their Audience with Jon Bregel


"When you live in alignment with your values, you cause yourself as little suffering as possible in the long term. And that one just always sticks with me because it's really challenging in the short term. But if you have faith in your values and who you are and how you want to show up in the world, then ultimately you're creating a path that's going to serve you for the long term."

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The One Thing Every Storyteller Misses About Their Audience with Jon Bregel

What happens when the thing you love most… starts breaking you?

In this episode, Rain sits down with cinematographer, founder of Variable, and career/life coach for filmmakers, Jon Bregel, to unpack a reality most creatives don’t talk about enough: burnout.

After years of success in the film industry, Jon hit a breaking point that forced him to reevaluate everything—his career, his identity, and the story he was telling himself. That journey led him to create The Nourish Community, a space designed specifically to support the mental and emotional health of filmmakers.

This conversation goes beyond tactics and storytelling tips. It’s about identity, purpose, and how to build a creative life that actually sustains you, instead of slowly draining you.

If you’re a filmmaker, creator, storyteller, or entrepreneur feeling the pressure… this one hits close to home.

In this episode, you will learn how to:

  • Recognize the early warning signs of creative burnout before it becomes a crisis

  • Use core values as a practical decision-making compass

  • Understand the difference between a life coach and a therapist and why creatives may need both for different reasons

  • Reframe career plateaus, pivots, and rest as seasons of inner growth rather than signs of failure

  • Build or seek out real community as a creative and understand why that distinction changes everything


When you live in alignment with your values, you cause yourself as little suffering as possible in the long term. And that one just always sticks with me because it's really challenging in the short term. But if you have faith in your values and who you are and how you want to show up in the world, then ultimately you're creating a path that's going to serve you for the long term.

- Jon Bregel


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Some of the highlights of the episode:


  • 00:00 — Introduction: Audience vs. Community and Why It Matters

  • 04:39 — Meet Jon Bregel: Filmmaker, Coach and Founder of the Nourish Community 05:26 — What the Nourish Community Is and Who It's For

  • 07:09 — The Origin Story: 10 Years in NYC and the Breaking Point

  • 09:50 — The Battle Between Loving Your Work and Losing Yourself

  • 11:56 — What It Means to Be a Filmmaker and the Identity Trap

  • 13:20 — The Sabbatical That Didn't Fix Anything (And What Did)

  • 16:23 — What Life Coaching Actually Does and Why It's Not Woo Woo

  • 18:14 — Core Values as a Compass for Creatives

  • 20:31 — How to Use Your Values to Decide What Work to Accept

  • 24:52 — When Jon Decided to Become a Coach Himself

  • 27:32 — How Coaching Filmmakers Became a Full-Time Career

  • 28:28 — How the Nourish Community Grew Out of One-on-One Work

  • 31:21 — Why Community Is Not Optional for Creatives

  • 35:25 — What It Actually Looks Like Inside the Nourish Community

  • 37:38 — Using Storytelling and Filmmaking to Process Trauma

  • 40:48 — How Filmmaking Became a Tool for Self-Transformation

  • 41:56 — Personal Projects vs. Paying Work: Finding the Balance

  • 44:29 — Is Your Soul Aligned With Your Role?

  • 46:05 — Inner Growth vs. Outer Growth and Why Rest Is Part of the Equation

  • 48:53 — The Origin Story of Nourish in a Nutshell

  • 49:49 — What's Next: Expanding Nourish, New Coaching Tools and Moving to China


As always, I hope you enjoy the episode!

Rain



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